Measure for Measure: How Does Familiar Experience Emerge From Quantum Reality?

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Measure for Measure: Quantum Physics and Reality

Full Program: 2014 World Science Festival | 01:38:44

Featuring Physicist, Philosopher David Z. Albert, Theoretical Physicist, Author Sean Carroll, Mathematician, Physicist, Philosopher Sheldon Goldstein, and Mathematician Ruediger Schack with Physicist Brian Greene Moderating

When no one is looking, a particle has near limitless potential: it can be nearly anywhere. But measure it, and the particle snaps to one position. How do subatomic objects shed their quantum weirdness? Experts in the field of physics, including David Z. Albert, Sean Carroll, Sheldon Goldstein, Ruediger Schack, and moderator Brian Greene, discuss the history of quantum mechanics, current theories in the field, and possibilities for the future.

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Brian Greene

Brian Greene

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DAVID Z. ALBERT

David Z. Albert

Physicist, Philosopher
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Sean Carroll

Theoretical Physicist, Author
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Sheldon Goldstein

Mathematician, Physicist, Philosopher
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Ruediger Schack

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18 comments
lishlash
lishlash

The handwaving these scientists resort to in order to dismiss Bohmian Mechanics ("none of this is necessary", "spooky action at a distance", "I don't like it", "thumbs down") exposes their inability to refute its claims with any substantive arguments. In addition, the moderator's bias is evident in referring to Bohm dismissively as the "culprit" responsible for reviving de Broglie's work, and in selecting someone who doesn't even support the theory to represent it.

eltodesukane
eltodesukane

My preferred interpretation is the many worlds theory.

But I don't see much difference between
- the Born rule interpretation: collapse of the wave function,
 (random collapse, according to some probabilities)
- the many-worlds interpretation: branching of the wave function,
 (random branch selection, according to some probabilities)

In both case we have a deterministic theory with a probabilistic measurement.
The measurement problem is present in both cases,
(random collapse or random branch selection)

Many say the meaning of probabilities is unclear in the many-worlds interpretation.
But I don't see a problem, it is the probability we go down some branch.

KSeanProudler
KSeanProudler

I find it mind boggling that today's physicists have not figured this all out as of yet. They all are currently viewed as being intelligent people but either they do not agree with each other or at the very least they do not find the answers, thus they are on the wrong track. If you follow the track of truth, you can't go wrong. Nothing can stop you.

Thus, what exactly are these tracks that they are currently following ?
Where do they lead ?

It is sad to say, but still to this day, most people choose to be no more intelligent than their eyeballs and their ears. Thus they believe what they see, and they also accept what they hear.

In turn they miss the obviousness that it is absolutely impossible for a car to stop ( zero motion ), then start ( be in motion ), and stop again ( back to zero motion ). How the heck can they miss the obviousness that all cars are always moving at the speed of light within that 4 dimensional environment known as Space-Time. All that can be done is change the direction of travel of that cars constant motion within the 4 dimensional environment known as Space-Time.

If you examine motion properly, by following the path of truth, you soon end up with a full understanding of Albert Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity along with creating all of the mathematical equations which are related to Albert Einstein's Theory of Special Relativity. No education in physics is required at all to do so. When you complete your analysis of motion you then investigate the world of physics, and it is then that you surprisingly discover that your work produces the exact same outcome as Albert Einstein's.

After that you encounter 4 dimensional events and the laws of physics that govern them. Then you scratch your head and wonder why these laws of physics are not in today's physics books since they resolve all current questions concerning Quantum mechanics. Instead you only find the laws of physics which relate to 3 dimensional events.

Bill Vintage 1948
Bill Vintage 1948

@KSeanProudler Regardless of that, light is made up of wavicles. If you set up an experiment to determine whether you are dealing with particles or waves, the experiment will agreeably give you both. 
..
Thus, it is problematic to try to claim that one answer is "the truth." 
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The smaller the universe you examine, the stranger and more ambiguous
it seems to be.
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Shows like "Sliders" explore speculative experiences which probably cannot
and never will arise. It is fun to play with, though. "Quantum Leap" was
another fun series. Yes, it would be neat if I could jump back into my 
own body at the age of ten and then live my life forward from that point
with all of my memories from my previous run-through intact. What would
I do with that knowledge?  Obviously, I would make quite a bit of money
and have a more pleasant adolescence. Then, eventually, I would arrive
at my present age. In the new reality, though, I would have no motivation
to leap back to the age of ten again, so what would balance the "me" 
that disappeared from the old reality?  I don't think people ... their souls,
or whatever we are .. can just vanish. Equations need to balance. 
..
Most people I hear talking about Quantum Mechanics are just speculating
based on no information at all. The discipline does not seem to teach you
much of use about the universe but it does seem to reveal quite a bit about
the people who are speculating about it.



somewheresouth
somewheresouth

@KSeanProudler What do you mean, it is impossible for a car to stop? Perhaps you are just using the wrong frame of reference...


What evidence do you present for the statement that "If you follow the track of truth, you can't go wrong."?


If you have resolved "all current questions concerning Quantum mechanics" I would like to see your mathematical proofs. And while you're at it, you could prove the existence of solutions to the Navier-Stokes equations. I hear the prize for that is a million dollars.

KSeanProudler
KSeanProudler

@somewheresouth @KSeanProudler  Sorry but math is not a specialty of mine.

The first step I take is to figured something out, and it is only then that I convert it into an equation. For example my analysis of motion produced a complete understanding of Einstein's theory of Special Relativity and produced all of its equations. The equations were simply an outcome. See my videos 1 -> 9 ( approximately 1 1/2 hour long total ) at  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKAwpEetJ-Q&list=PL3zkZRUI2IyBFAowlUivFbeBh-Mq7HdoQ


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Here, you will note that a car, or a spaceship for instance, is constantly in motion at the speed of light. All that can be altered is the direction of which it is traveling, within the 4 dimensional environment know as Space-Time.

CedeBooflawkr
CedeBooflawkr

Without a clear understanding and use if QM we would not have this digital age. Without understanding this mechanics neither the lasers nor the transistors that make this email feasible.

Was not sure what to make of your Back to Future scenario. It relates to relativity not QM. As to speculating, there is a lot of that by celebrity scientists like Carroll and yes by others who -because they get their beliefs from such celebrities and tabloids that they are featured in - are wrong.

eltodesukane
eltodesukane

@KSeanProudler  SR (Special relativity) and GR (general relativity) certainly do not "resolve all current questions concerning Quantum mechanics".

As far as we know, Quantum mechanics seems far more fundamental than GR, and incompatible with GR.

RonaldPatrickMarriott
RonaldPatrickMarriott

The Quantum world "Dark energy" Telsa "Cosmic energy"  is made from a high energy photon created by a lightning product named Relativistic Perturbation Mantle, I made a discovery in Lightning physics that revealed the very centerpiece in the reproduction cycle for many things in the universe...Dark matter producing Dark energy and earths biosphere...
"Relativistic Perturbation "Mantle".

The explanation is not all here but the generality. Paper is on the way. 

When hydrogen sits at an high altitude weightless environment of lightning, it allows a disc of antihydrogen fusion to be created. In the construction process this fusion creates rings of Carbon, Liquid oxygen cooling the fusion back to carbon sealing and surrounding a 2 dimensional 12 foot disc of fused negative energy (anti-hydrogen fusion). This combination traps the energy allowing for the conversion of the first carbon ring to high energy photons "dark energy" and then disappears "dark matter" only to reappear (as seen on NASA video) when the fusion is cooled back to our dimension as a Sprite. The photons produced is considered our Aether and allows the "Spooky" qualities for quantum physics and Compton Scattering, When Mantle consumes the first carbon ring it allows the paramagnetic Liquid Oxygen to rush in producing a Sprite above storms. This witnessed event is documented and backed by current sciences. Mantle for short produces Gamma rays found by NASA's FERMI satellite during Sprite production. PAMELA satellite found the anti-protons around the Van Allen belt produced by Mantle's energetics discharge. Mantle's reproduction will lend efforts to traveling as dark energy exceeding light speed "Warp" travel, wormhole production and dimension technology. The release of charged liquid Oxygen is converting to Air/water for the atmosphere and electrons for the Ionosphere. This will supply us with clean water and energy any place on earth or space.
These advancements of the human race in the areas of Food production, Computer storage using Dark energy, battery tech., Transportation, Infrastructure, Medical, Space Travel and Dimension Building using high energy particle physics from my discoveries.

Ellen Tabor
Ellen Tabor

My brain turned to scrambled eggs during this presentation...thank you, WSF!

CedeBooflawkr
CedeBooflawkr

That a million bucks for one episode pretending to be smart is proof he is smart.

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